Comments: Jesus God YouTube video.
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Why is it that Jesus & God would show those who do not believe that their true. But now theres no REAL miracles. And they dont try to bring in those who do not believe. Why??
Do they have more than enough followers??
Faith is blind (right!!!!)
but there are no miracles today.
and there is no proof that those things really happend.
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I mean no disrespect to anyone. I only want to discuss this point of debate.
It is my ever strengthening feeling that Jesus, or properly Yahshua , was never God.
This is a key point in understanding the purpose of the Bible from my prospective. God, or Yahweh as is his name, stated many times that HE is the only god. That there are no others besides him. Yet many like to say the Jesus is God, or God in the flesh. But he is a separate individual. My reading of the Bible does not say that Yahshua is Yahweh ever. There are verse where he Yahshua says, "I and my father are one," but there are also places where it says the a Man and his Wife are one flesh. Does that mean that me and my wife are the same person? I don't think so. I have read every verse of many different versions of the Bible and I still don't think that Yahshua was ever saying he is God(Yahweh), but only stating that he is the son of Yahweh by being the perfect example of what that means. Many people were call son of God.
If Jesus was god, than what good does that show us? That a perfect God can be a perfect person? I Yahshua was a human man just like us, than it would mean something be has example. Of course God can be perfect!
Ok, since some may are missing the point.
If Jesus is the "Son of God" then that would be more the one God, right?
PAULO: The verses you quoted proven to be mistranslated into plural.
Trevor:
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Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?
So right here Jesus did not say he was God?
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Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. He is saying that Philip shouldn't have to want to see the Father because Yahshua's persona as a righteous person should show him that he speaks truth. "I am in the Father and He is in me," means that he walks in the Father ways and the Father is in him because of it. I could say the same thing. Does that make me God?
cuchlain77:
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"In the beginning was the Word"
The Word has never been Jesus, just that the Word is the fullest extent of what Yahweh created us for. The End Result if you will
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"And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."
The word of God here is el, which was an honorary name given to many kings at the time. No deity made here.
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"The Name Elohim, meaning "Gods""
This is true, but the origin of El as the head god of the Canaanites. Elohim was a statement of completeness over all the gods of these people. It was used here only because to these people Elohim would be understood it to mean all the powers of gods. Like saying, "Our gods are one, Yahweh." There is still only Yahweh.
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"Jesus is not simply the son of God... meaning He is of the same nature"
This was a debate all the way back the the 1st Council of Nicaeh. Where is was voted that they were the same substance. Do I care what they thought?
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How do you tell Jesus apart from God?
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How can some believe in the existence of Jesus, but not God. They are on in the same.
"I and my Father are one" (John 10:30).
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WheN God came to earth as Jesus.who ran the earth, did peoples prawers get answered,or did God take 30 years off ?did the angels still report to God?
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Why or why not?
Sorry ankaboot I admit I put a down just to read the other answers. Don't take it personal I read your answer. :-)
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Agree?
Jesus is God, yet seperate from God.
When Jesus/God said that gay people should be put to death and that if you work on the sabbath you should be put to death there was absolutely NOTHING wrong with this.
When Jesus/God came to earth, he decided to change the law so that gay people and guys that work on the sabbath no longer have to die, but in the time of Moses, it was perfectly okay for Jesus/God to kill anyone for gathering firewood when they are supposed to be resting.
If you were unlucky enough to live during that time period and you do not follow the rules, you DESERVED to die. Jesus/God agrees with this.
Jesus/God does not agree that it would be okay to kill someone now, but back then in the time of Moses it was okay because it was a different time.
Agree?
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how has jesus/god changed you life what were you like before and how do you keep your faith strong in troubled times, im going through a faith crisis and need a little hope from others who have made it through with faith strong as ever.
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i see nothing wrong with calling jesus god
anyone who can love, have mercy and forgive others need to be called a god and jesus fits that role
comments?
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Im 14 and been really confused. Is Jesus the son of god..yeah he is the bible says so..but then we call Jesus God?? I just don't get it. My church sometimes talks about Jesus as God's son but then other times as Jesus is the God!! Can you help me explain and tell me your thoughts on this?
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Was Jesus God? I always learned that he was the Son of God, but after studying the bible more in depth it seems that I understand that he IS God. I'm confused, what's up with that? So who do you pray to, Jesus or God?
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