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There are some conspiracy theories that say that planes didn't hit the WTC towers. They say that the film footage was all fake. And they also say there were zero eyewitness reports of the planes hitting the towers. Surely there must have been SOME right?
Do any of you know of someone or did you yourself personally witness one of the planes hitting the towers?
vincent g wrote:
This silly question has been asked 8000 times.
As if I didn't do a search for it. Well smart@$$ show me the links where this exact question has been asked.
Dammit @%$#%$s. I said eyewitnesses. These reports say you can't trust the videos. I'm not asking about FILM witnesses. The whole world wasn't in NYC on 911. They saw the film.
So I repeat, have any of you (or do you know of someone personally) seen with YOUR EYBALLS the ACTUAL plane, not just on film, hit the towers.
And for the !#@$ing record. I'm not a conspiracy nut. I'm trying to argue with a conspiracy nut on a different webpage and I can't find any real eyewitness reports on the web that show someone who actually witnessed with their eyes the actual plane hit the actual tower.
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Why the Steel structures of the WTC towers dissaperar or evaporated like by magical?
& Why the Main Stream media rejects all Consopiracy Theories that involves Israel? fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength--and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."
"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F,
What secret material was used in the demolition?
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For those who traveled to the WTC (World Trade Center) towers pre-9/11, I have a question.
In the South Tower lobby, hung all the flags of the world. I recently discovered some photos of these flags, but the photos only show L-Z (countries), and so does all the other pictures I found. My question is, where in the lobby were A-K (countries) located?
Here's a pic, for example:
courtesy of Flickr, and is only being used as an example.
As you can see, it shows L (Laos or Latvia) through Z (Zimbabwe). There seems to be a wall (elevators?) at Laos or Latvia, so where is K-A? Thanks for any help. I'd like to find a picture of K-A.
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Why the Main Stream media rejects all Consopiracy Theories that involves Israel? fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength--and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."
"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F,
What secret material was used in the demolition?
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This is really a question you have to ask yourself. The official story behind the 9/11 attacks is that fire caused the collapse of both World Trade Center towers. However, the FDNY used thermal equipment that day to gauge the temperature of the fires in the WTC. The highest temperature recorded was around 1700 degrees farenheit. Steel melts at 3000 degrees farenheit, and both towers were constructed with a giant steel column running through the middle of the buildings, with smaller steel columns arrayed around the middle column. Jetfuel from the planes burns at a maximum of 2000 degrees (F). How then, did fire destroy those buildings? I would love for someone to explain it to me, because it is scientifically impossible. Add to that the reports from many people, including fire fighters, who were there that day, who said they heard bombs going off.
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Is the question important? Tapes can be speeded up and slowed down. I don't see evidence of explosions on the lower floors.
I think there are a lot of unanswered questions about 9/11. If you look at controlled demolitons, it looks like explosives are place throughout the building, but the wtc buildings seem to collapse from the top down.
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A few key points...
1) Steel melts at about 2700 F, burning kerosene ranges in temp form 800 - 1500 F
2) A third building also "colapsed" next to WTC because of a supposed fire...why was so little heard about it?
3) The two buildings were pulverised, or basically turned into dust, in their own footprints, and the walls imploded...something seen only in a controlled demolition.
Please please please state your sources...and dont say anything that proves someones stupidity like "my brain" or "common sense"
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Would they have tipped over instead of collapsing? And how much more damage would have resulted to the surrounding area? Keep in mind the towers were both over 1,360 feet tall.
Just asking out of curiosity. I'm not asking about the conspiracy factor. I saw a plane hit the building on live TV and watched the images replayed for about 12 hours afterwards in a state of shock and anger.
Okay maybe I didn't give a clear scenario. The towers collapsed onto itself as the weight of the top section gave way and floor by floor caved in. But has anybody ever played Jenga? What would happen if one of the side supports near the bottom gave way before the other side? Wouldn't there be a tipping motion involved?
I don't want to insult anybody's intelligence here but I don't buy the conspiracy version. And my question is just hypothetical. Btw, I am not very naive and don't trust the govt hardly at all. But fact for fact the conspiracy evidence jst doesn't hold water. At least not yet.
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Hey Rudy! Got truth?
Rudy Giuliani lying about being warned about WTC collapse
Giuliani admits he was warned of builing collapse on 9/11
Giuliani lying about how WTC 7 collapsed over time when WTC 7 collapsed under 10 seconds
lying about air quality on 9/11
bonus! Compare the collapse of WTC 7 with an actual controlled demolition
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....about what really happened to the steel? I would think if you build a building like the WTC, you would over-build the specs just to make sure.
Could I please have the name of the company or investigators?
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There is absolutely no way that the towers could have fallen the way they did without the use of explosives placed on every floor. Tower 7 came down without even being touched by any falling debri. How could this all happen without help from insiders and government assistance? I'm not a conspiracy nut, but I do know enough about physics to know how explosive devices bring down high-rise towers.
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Is it possible that it wasn't an inside job and that the contractor just didn't do what he was supposed to do, using a less grade of steel that destablizes in jet fuel?
Anyone who has ever worked with a contractor knows this is common practice for them.....
why does different type of steel destablize at different temps?
In research of the steal that was supposed to be used in the WTC Towers, it says that its destablization point is much greater than the temp in which Jet fuel burns.
But yes, it is the terrorists fault. Yes. I know that. But why ignore questions of fact?
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How many liberals instantly saw it would be a perfect opportunity to knock the Bush administration? I think I even heard some liberals on the floor above me cheering.
Pretty_Trini...Dork - Since you are obviously liberal AND ingnorant, a dork is another name for a whale penis. About 10 feet long thank you very much. With that in mind, what you doing tonight little mamma?
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Where was flight 93 headed before it crashed in PA?
kvery, I have hardly been under a rock.
Some people have concluded that 93 was actually headed toward NYC and WTC 7. Since the building was wired for demolition and the plane never made it there, they had to "pull" it. This is what I'm getting at, wondering what people think of that idea.
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