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 Steven E. Jones is a professor at Brigham Young University. He has created the paper which has created the ground swell around the 911 conspiracy theories. His paper was peer reviewed but not by a civil engineering journal. One would think a serious professor would get his paper peer reviewed by a scientific journal which specializes in the field they are writing the paper on. But is Professor Jones qualified to create a paper which says the towers must have fallen due to explosives? He is a physics professor but what experience does Jones have in building collapse forensics? He has none. His other peer reviewed papers consist of cold fusion technology. He conducts research in nuclear fusion and solar energy. Nothing in his background would suggest he is qualified to write a civil engineering paper on the infinitely complex building collapse of the towers. Brigham Young University doesn't want anything to do with the paper. A few department chairmen at Jones' university have issued critical statements, though none of these has yet addressed any of the points which Jones made in his paper and at his presentation at BYU. Chairman of the BYU department of Civil and Environmental Engineering, Dr. Miller, is on record stating in an e-mail, "I think without exception, the structural engineering professors in our department are not in agreement with the claims made by Jones in his paper, and they don't think there is accuracy and validity to these claims". The BYU physics department has also issued a statement: "The university is aware that Professor Steven Jones' hypotheses and interpretations of evidence regarding the collapse of World Trade Center buildings are being questioned by a number of scholars and practitioners, including many of BYU's own faculty members. Professor Jones' department and college administrators are not convinced that his analyses and hypotheses have been submitted to relevant scientific venues that would ensure rigorous technical peer review." The College of Engineering and Technology department has also added, "The structural engineering faculty in the Fulton College of Engineering and Technology do not support the hypotheses of Professor Jones." Jones says his paper will pass peer review again. But will it pass peer review in a respected civil engineering journal? Nothing less would be taken seriously. One of Jones BYU colleagues had this to say after reading his paper... Letter to the Editor Refuting 9/11 Conspiracy Theory April 09, 2006 Dear Editor, After reading in the Daily Herald the presentations made by Professor Steven E. Jones (BYU Physics) to students at UVSC and BYU, I feel obligated to reply to his "Conspiracy Theory" relating to the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center (9/11/01). I have studied the summary of the report by FEMA, The American Society of Civil Engineers and several other professional engineering organizations. These experts have given in detail the effects on the Towers by the impact of the commercial aircraft. I have also read Professor Jones' (referred to) 42 page unpublished report. In my understanding of structural design and the properties of structural steel I find Professor Jones' thesis that planted explosives (rather than fire from the planes) caused the collapse of the Towers, very unreliable. The structural design of the towers was unique in that the supporting steel structure consisted of closely spaced columns in the walls of all four sides. The resulting structure was similar to a tube. When the aircraft impacted the towers at speeds of about 500 plus mph, many steel columns were immediately severed and others rendered weak by the following fires. The fires critically damaged the floors systems. Structural steel will begin to lose strength when heated to temperatures above 1000 degrees Fahrenheit. Steel bridge girders are bent to conform to the curved roadway by spot heating flanges between 800 and 1000 degrees Fahrenheit. It is easy to comprehend the loss of carrying capacity of all the structural steel due to the raging fires fed by the jet's fuel as well as aircraft and building contents. Before one (especially students) supports such a conspiracy theory, they should investigate all details of the theory. To me a practicing structural engineer of 57 continuous years (1941-1998), Professor Jones' presentations are very disturbing. D. Allan Firmage Professor Emeritus, Civil Engineering, BYU ...

 One day Mrs. Jones went to have a talk with the minister at the local church. "Reverend," she said, "I have a problem, my husband keeps falling asleep during your sermons. It's very embarrassing. What should I do?" "I have an idea," said the minister. "Take this hatpin with you. I will be able to tell when Mr. Jones is sleeping, and I will motion to you at specific times. When I motion, you give him a good poke in the leg." In church the following Sunday, Mr. Jones dozed off. Noticing this, the preacher put his plan to work. "And who made the ultimate sacrifice for you?" he said, nodding to Mrs.Jones. "Jesus!", Jones cried as his wife jabbed him the leg with the hatpin. "Yes, you are right, Mr. Jones," said the minister. Soon, Mr. Jones nodded off again. Again, the minister noticed. "Who is your redeemer?" he asked the congregation, motioning towards Mrs. Jones. "God!" Mr. Jones cried out as he was stuck again with the hatpin. "Right again," said the minister, smiling. Before long, Mr. Jones again winked off. However, this time the minister did not notice. As he picked up the tempo of his sermon, he made a few motions that Mrs. Jones mistook as signals to bayonet her husband with the hatpin again. The minister asked, "And what did Eve say to Adam after she bore him his 99th son?" Mrs. Jones poked her husband, who yelled, "You stick that goddamned thing in me one more time and I'll break it in half and shove it up your ass!" "Amen," replied the congregation. ...

 One day Mrs. Jones went to have a talk with the minister at the local church. "Reverend," she said, "I have a problem, my husband keeps falling asleep during your sermons. It's very embarrassing. What should I do?" "I have an idea," said the minister. "Take this hatpin with you. I will be able to tell when Mr. Jones is sleeping, and I will motion to you at specific times. When I motion, you give him a good poke in the leg." In church the following Sunday, Mr. Jones dozed off. Noticing this, the preacher put his plan to work. "And who made the ultimate sacrifice for you?" he said, nodding to Mrs. Jones. "Jesus!", Jones cried as his wife jabbed him the leg with the hatpin. "Yes, you are right, Mr. Jones," said the minister. Soon, Mr. Jones nodded off again. Again, the minister noticed. "Who is your redeemer?" he asked the congregation, motioning towards Mrs. Jones. "God!" Mr. Jones cried out as he was stuck again with the hatpin. "Right again," said the minister, smiling. Before long, Mr. Jones again winked off. However, this time the minister did not notice. As he picked up the tempo of his sermon, he made a few motions that Mrs. Jones mistook as signals to bayonet her husband with the hatpin again. The minister asked, "And what did Eve say to Adam after she bore him his 99th son?" Mrs. Jones poked her husband, who yelled, "You stick that goddamned thing in me one more time and I'll break it in half and shove it up your ass!" "Amen," replied the congregation. ...

 Roy Jones still says he is the best fighter pound for pound. Read wat he said and tell me wat u guys think about it There is a possibilty that Roy Jones Jr will face Bernard Hopkins in July of this year. Jones feels that a fight with Hopkins is huge and when he is motivated, he is still one of the best pound for pound in the world. In regards to fighting Hopkins, Jones Jr tells Mark Vester of BoxingScene.com that he'll be motivated, basically warning when he is on his game, he is the Best Pound for Pound in the game. Quoted by BoxingScene, Jones Jr said: "I would be real motivated for Hopkins, and when I'm motivated I'm the best best pound-for-pound fighter in the world." Jones added: "I know what people think, but I'm still the same Roy Jones." Hopkins vs Jones Jr is not set in stone as Team Hopkins has also been reported to be in talks with Joe Calzaghe's team for a match in July of this year. ...

 "Indiana Jones and the Evil Prostate-Examing Doctor" "Indiana Jones and His Little Magic Blue Pills" "Indiana Jones Works a Crossword Puzzle" "Indiana Jones and Those Damn Kids Who's Ball Always Ends Up In His Yard" "Indiana Jones and the Failed Eye Test" "Indiana Jones Nails All Three Golden Girls" "Indiana Jones and the Debate Whether to Buy a Cadilac or an Oldsmobile" "Indiana Jones and the Search for am Alzheimer's Cure" "Indiana Jones Watches the Weather Channel" "Indiana Jones and the Search for the Missing Remote Control" "Indiana Jones Orders Coffee and a Bowl of Soup" ...

 In his prime he was one of the most exciting and talented boxers the sport has ever seen. Yet so many critics say he didn't fight anyone. He has clear and easy victories over greats Toney and Hopkins, and defeated HW John Ruiz. He dominated the LHW division contenders of the time including Virgil Hill, Griffin, Woods, Julio Cesar Gonzalez. Before Jones-Tarver 1 Jones had NEVER won by anything other than an unanimous decision or KO! That was 50 pro fights! I venture to say that no one other than Rocky Marciano has ruled their division for as long and has effectively as Roy Jones Jr did. Obviously Jones losses and his uninspired attempt to beat Tarver in their 3rd fight makes Jones look more human and hurt his legacy. But was Roy Jones Jr in his prime not one of the best boxers in history? Also, please take into consideration the Jones has no control over how weak his division was. History's divisions can't all be as stacked as the Frazier/Ali HW division was. ...

 Jim Jones is the greatest of all time, theres no doubt to that Jim jones is the best lyricist ever Jim jones is the best overall on the mic P.O.M.E was the greatest hip hop album ever We Fly High was the best hip hop track ever "I Hop'd out saggy jeans and my rock glistenin(BALLIN!) But I spent bout 8 grand Mami on stage doin the rain dance (I think she like me) She let it hit the floor, made it pop (What Else !?) Got my pedal to the floor screamin fuck the cops(Do It!)" UH listen to him kick that funky rhythem, god damn what a genius Anyways for kicks list the top ten best emcees of all time BEHIND jim jones, we all know he is the illest, so just make the 10 directly behind him. Heres mine Behind jim jones is 1. Big L 2. Big Pun 3. Rakim 4. Kool G Rap 5. Nas 6. Krs-One 7. Wu-Tang Clan 8. Notorious B.I.G 9. Run-DMC 10. bob gotta go lets just say Mobb Deep for now HAY JiM jOnEs MuS b ThA bEsT aLl ThA kIdZ aT mAi SkOo Bai HiS MuZik BALLIN and candycane bob got mo hip hop in bob's right hand then you got in yo whole body. BAAAAAAAAAAALLLLIN ...

 do you still want to line up behind him as your political Jesus? The following list is of beliefs which Alex Jones has explicitly or implicitly stated on his cable access show--sometimes many times Alex Jones has correctly predicted everything that has happened in the last 10 years. (Can you spell M-E-G-A-L-O-M-A-N-I-A? I thought you could...) Black helicopters are real. Charlie Sheen inherited his father's brains. There's a worldwide takeover going on, perceptible only to dumb white guys. The ruling elite of the world worship Moloch. (The evidence for this is a blurry video of the show at Bohemian Grove. Alex thinks the Bohemian Grove show is real.) The secret rulers of the world can live forever. (No one knows where this comes from or why Alex believes it. I think it came from a dream Alex had. As far as I know, the rulers of the world continue to die normally.) The elite have openly announced that they want to kill 80% of us. Dick Cheney writes papers saying terrorism isn't real. (Alex wouldn't say what papers. Alex Jones almost never says where he gets his "information.") The U.S. Government went around Italy blowing up school busses full of children...& admitted it. (Twirling their moustaches & going "Nya-ha-ha-ha!" Alex hears a lot of admissions no one else can hear.) The left-right political spectrum is bogus (This is the dominant paradigm of stupid people today!) There are little wires in dollar bills that keep track of what you buy. (Somehow.) Vicente Fox can morph into a green devil. (Alex says he saw him do it. Honest. This vision occurred when Fox visited Texas, c. 2003-4, & Alex bullhorned him.) The Communist Chinese Army has taken over the Massachusetts Port Authority. Illegal aliens live the Life of Reilly in the United States. (In hospital emergency rooms, they always get to go to the front of the line! They also get tax breaks, free school tuition, discounts on Twinkies, etc.! It's part of a secret plot that only Alex Jones has figured out.) Noam Chomsky is a mongoloid idiot. Also an agent. There are Illuminati symbols on Starbucks coffee cups. (The Illuminati leave clues visible only to angry white guys with IQ's in the mid-80's.) Exits on tollroads are 50 miles apart. (It's a takeover! who woulda thought?) Jacques Cousteau wanted to kill 80% of us. (Jacques, too? I wonder why he didn't live forever?) Margaret Sanger gave & received awards from Hitler. (When the Nazis weren't burning her books.) There are live AIDS viruses in the corn. (This means no sex with the corn.) 91% of Americans are Nazis. (Alex says anyone who favors gun control is a Nazi; 91% of Americans favor mandatory handgun registration; that's a lotta Nazis, Alex.) The United Nations goes around Africa, sterilizing women at random (twirling their moustaches & going "Nya-ha-ha-haa!") The Founding Fathers were stupid (they were Masons??but they didn't know about the secret conspiracy so obvious to Alex & his friends) Masons can commit murder. They make a secret sign to the judges and are immediately set free. All throughout history, governments have always been evil. (Bet you didn't know that. Like most of the Patriots, Alex is an anti-government bigot. He frequently poses as a historian, but no real historian believes what Alex Jones believes.) Power outages are government plots. Illegal immigration is a government plot. The counterculture is a government plot. Vaccines are a you-know-what. Thumbscanning is a government plot. Environmentalism is a government plot. The National Seatbelt Initiative is a bloody government plot. Feminism is a government plot. Tollroads are a gummint plot. This web page is a government plot. Your mother is a government plot. The goddam drug culture is a government plot. (Alex Buzzkill Jones.) Cell phones are a government plot. Sports are a government plot...somehow. Antidepressants are a government plot. (Better you should say "What's NOT a government plot?") All domestic terror attacks are government plots. (Pulled off by the most inompetent administration in history, fooling everyone in the world except angry white guys with IQ's in the mid-80's.) The government brings in all the drugs. (All of them! Only Alex Jones knows this. No documentation. No nothing. Just another bad dream Alex mistook for news.) Arnold Schwartzeneggar is a known Nazi. (Only Alex knows this. Someone alert the Kennedys.) Arnold Schwartzeneggar is part of an Austrian plot to take over America. (Alex really has it in for Arnie. He has a web page devoted entirely to ad hominem attacks against the ex-terminator.) Skull & Bones is part of an English plot to take over America. The United Nations is part of a (very slow) plot to take over America. ***INTERMISSION*** Adjust your tin hats. Children's cartoons are part of a government plot to brainwash us. (Alex Jones is immune. Conspiracy guys are always immune to the brainwashing they see everywhere. White-Guy egotism.) Organized religion is brainwashing us. (Doesn't Alex realize brainless people cannot brainwash?) My cable show brainwashes you. (If that were true, people would be sending me money.) The secret ruling elite of the world are putting up buildings that look like owls. (Only conspiracy people can see these owls, in case you were wondering. I wonder why they don't build pyramids with eyes on top of them.) Most major police chiefs are CIA operatives. Gloria Steinham is a CIA operative. The voting-machine companies are openly run by the CIA. ("Openly run by the CIA" sounds like an oxymoron to me.) The Quakers are communists. (Er...I thought communists were atheists. Of course, right-wing loonies have no concept of what communism is.) All of Clinton's cabinet were Jewish. (Alex is not anti-Semitic. I don't know why he said this. Another dream, I guess.) People in Holland have tattoos saying "Don't Kill Me." (A tougher country than we thought.) Lyndon Johnson had John Kennedy killed. (I guess JFK was stupid, choosing LBJ as his running mate like that. Conspiracy guys are stupid, so they think everybody is stupid.) The UN has sold thousands of children into slavery & for snuff films. Gays are actively recruiting in our schools. (Why do right-wing loonies always believe this?) The government keeps "giant, honeycombed hives full of toddlers drugged on lithium" (twirling their moustaches & going "NYA-HAHAHAHA!") The Rothschilds funded Hitler. (Once again, normally smart people become staggeringly stupid in Alex's dreams.) People in Africa tear off their arms after receiving vaccinations. (But then, we've all done that.) The government is spraying us with EVIL CHEMICALS contained in the contrails of planes (also poisoning themselves, I guess. Shows you how ruthless the elite are.) The United Nations goes around Africa, sterilizing women at random (twirling their moustaches & saying "Nya-ha-ha-haa!") Every soldier who died in any war since the Civil War was a chump (you thought they were heroes; turns out they were nothing but fools; how's THAT for patriotism?) Antidepressants are a government plot to bum us out. The United Nations is part of a (very slow) plot to take over America. Mercury travels from Africa to Austin on the Jet Stream. That's why Austinites have so many allergies. IQ's are going down. (IQ's are going up.) The cancer rate is up. (Most cancer rates are down.) During his inauguration, President Clinton openly gave the sign of Satan for all the world to see. (They all worship Moloch, don't forget. I don't know how we get to Satan from there...but Alex says so.) Alex Jones is saving humankind with his cable TV show, radio shows, & tapes (available for purchase, by the way). Bad people are deliberately putting cancer viruses, AIDS viruses, & mercury in our vaccines (twirling their moustaches & going "Nya-hahaha!"). 9-11 was only the beginning; there are going to be lots of even bigger domestic attacks (5 years & waiting on this prediction, Alex). Most Americans believe the government was behind 9-11 (this is based on Alex's misreading of a Zogby poll; Alex misreads EVERYTHING) They sacrifice babies at Bohemian Grove. (Try to imagine Richard Nixon sacrificing a baby. Or GWB. I guess Cheney would do it, perhaps inadvertently.) They only hire people with IQ's below 100 to become police officers. (Like most "Patriots," Alex Jones is essentially a cop-hater. He will say anything bad about the police.) & finally...my personal favorite: Alex Jones can predict the future, because he goes to the SECRET WEBSITES where the New World Order tells you EVERYTHING IT'S GOING TO DO Lucky- He is a guy who started out simply enough in Austin, Texas with a local show basically talking sh!t about the "man" and the "system" your typical stuff, but then he saw an oportunity to exploit 9/11 to get some real publicity and he took it. ...

 at 10 a.m and traveling at 55 miles per hour. How long will it take Mrs. Jones to catch up with Mr. Jones? 8.5 hours 8 hours 11 hours 7 hours 9 hours 2. How long does it take for Mrs. Jones to drive before Mr. Jones catches up with him? ...

 I am working on a Jones family tree. I think I may be a distant relative of George Jones. I'm trying to find out if he was related to Jasper Leroy Jones, or John Russell Jones. They lived in Polk County Texas. Who were George Jones' parents, and grandparents? ...

 The first time I saw Roy Jones was when he fought Sugarboy Malinga Having watched Malinga's career from when he was up and coming in South Africa and actually having sparred several rounds with him, in my opinion he's one of the top defensive fighters of all time Malinga had up until that time never not gone the distance, and the deal he had in place was go the distance with Jones and get a shot at Nigel Benn Jones stopped him in 5. I knew was watching an extraordinary talent The following year he walked through James Toney, then the top pound for pound guy. And for ten years after that, it seemed as if Jones would have to be judged by a completely different barometer than anyone before him. Until he got stopped by Antonio Tarver and Glen Johnson. The weight loss after Ruiz did it. He wasn't shot overnight. The new barometer of Jones' place in history is 'can he rise to adversity?' That has always been the mark of greatness. He's 37 with rapidly diminishing skills. da1prophet - Where you from, dude? You know your s**t. I've read some of your other answers, particularly your very detailed answer to that chick that wants to insinuate that Tyson was the victim of an evil racist plot by unscrupulous white people to pump him up with steroids. You're wasting your time there, however, nothing will deter her from her fantasy life in which the black man and woman is always the victim. Santana D - No kidding you don't like Jones. I disagree completely that Jones has no chin. In his fights before Ruiz, I saw him get tagged several times The rapid weight loss of 25 pounds of MUSCLE after Ruiz damaged his body physiologically. There is no other way you go from being the best pound for pound guy for ten years to getting knocked out by one shot. Look how Tarver was struggling against Hopkins (not taking anything away from BHop), due to the weight loss after the Rocky movie. As someone who has had to make weight for kickboxing fights, I can assure you the effects are debilitating. And I never had to go through the extreme weight loss Jones did. Jones' ego destroyed him. He should have ignored Tarver at the press conference after Ruiz and stayed at heavyweight. Staying there was a no lose situation If he fought and beat Lewis or Tyson - look what he did! If he lost to them, no big deal. Now he's stuck fighting 'The Gator' in Joliet Illinois. Santana - Me against Malinga? That was a long time ago. Obviously he was a lot better than me, but in the rounds I did with him, I found the key to having any kind of success was to fight defensively. He didn't like coming forward. Malinga is the second oldest boxing champ in history, after Foreman - did you guys know that? I was a huge fan of his. He was the victim of the worst robbery I have ever seen in boxing, when he fought a guy called Sakkie Horn for the South African light heavy title. It was the third time they fought, and I can actually say I have seen a fight where one guy was fighting the ref as well. But that's another story. smitty - You don't have a clue about what you're talking about. No one can hide a weak chin for ten years. ...

 Jones the farmer noticed that people in the village were not talking to him. So he went to the local pub one night. Walked in started to shout to all the people there. I;m the one who repaired the bridge so the school kids could get home after the heavy rains washed the old bridge away. You dont call me Jones the bridge builder. I'm the one who repaired the church roof. But you don't call me Jones the roofer. I'm the one who repaired the doctor car that night the snow fell and he had to deliver Mrs williams baby. You don;t all me Jones the machanic BUT sh4g one little sheep ...

 i got offered andruw jones for tom glavine- i won't do that. what do u think about jones for smoltz or bengie molina and smoltz for andruw jones and carlos guillen I do need some pitching help and i have 3 shortstops which is way to many. at short i have peralta, jj hardy, and guillen in the outfield i have gary matthews jr., aaron rowand, and matt holliday, with abreu and jones. any thoughts would help, thanks i might also be abl to get aramis ramirez, i have mike lowell at 3b right now, and he is doing good i phrased the first sentance wrong, i have jones, and got offered glavine for him, im not gonna do that ...

 i am very frustrated right now because the person with the username Fred Jones has been plagiarizing my yahoo answers. proof: my yahoo answer: profile-info-esiCZfZHaa and Fred Jones' answer: profile-info-AA11878234 although, i have to say, Fred Jones did add like 3 more sites on there but the rest are mine. so i am just asking a favour to not vote for Fred Jones as best answer if the answer he gave was plagiarized from me or from anyone else if you find it. thank you btw, if you go look at his yahoo answers (the most recent ones) you'll notice that they are all plagiarized from me. ...

 Its no secret the the Mummy was styled after Indiana Jones (in fact Lucas called the mummy "the best copy of Indy ever made"), but which is better? Personally I love them both but I think Indiana Jones is far better. Also who would win in a fight Indiana Jones or Richard O'Connel Once again I say Indiana Jones. Another way that Indiana Jones is better is the music. Not that Jerry Goldsmith's and Alin Silvestery's scores for mummy and mummy returns were bad but John Williams score for Indy was awsome. Everyone knows the theme to Indy, but not to many people could wistle the mummy theme on demand. ...

 With the commutation of former vice presidential aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby's sentence, a Republican congressman is again calling on President Bush to pardon two border patrol agents convicted of shooting a Mexican drug smuggler. Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.) said in a letter to the president Tuesday that he is "deeply disappointed that U.S. Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean remain unjustly incarcerated for wounding a Mexican drug smuggler who brought 743 pounds of marijuana across our border." Libby was sentenced to 30 months for obstruction and lying to investigators looking into who leaked the name of CIA operative Valerie Plame to the media. Bush has said he will not rule out eventually pardoning Libby, who must still undergo two years' probation and pay $250,000 in fines. "While you have spared Mr. Libby from serving even one day of his 'excessive' 30-month prison term, agents Ramos and Compean have already served 167 days of their 11 and 12-year prison sentences," Jones wrote. "By attempting to apprehend an illegal alien drug smuggler, these agents were enforcing our laws, not breaking them," said Jones, who called on Bush to "listen to the American people and members of Congress who have called upon you to pardon these agents." "By granting immunity and free health care to an illegal alien drug trafficker and allowing our law enforcement officers to languish in prison -- our government has told its citizens, and the world, that it does not care about protecting our borders or enforcing our laws," he added. "I urge you to correct a true injustice by immediately pardoning these two law enforcement officers," Jones concluded. Had he commuted the sentences of the two Border Patrol agents for exactly the same reason, the sentence was too severe, he would still have some of my respect. I see this as taking his care of the DC in-crowd. ...

 Does anyone else think that Pacman Jones being allowed to attend training camp is Roger Goodell's way of trying to make up for not suspending Mike Vick? He suspended Jones without conviction and now he doesnt suspend Vick. I think maybe, just maybe he is trying to make what he did to Jones seem not as bad after not suspending Vick. Anyone agree? What are your thoughts? Chad K....one does not have nothing to do with another. They are not similar crimes but as far as football goes they are similar situations. He suspended Jones without conviction and he doesnt suspend Vick. Michael Vick and Adam "Pacman" Jones....Both ACCUSED of crimes....Jones suspended...Vick not suspended. Goodell says he wants to clean up the league, but he also wants to keep making money and he knows that Vick is a money maker. He set a double standard and now he is trying to right himself by allowing Jones to attend training camp. Freebs...how can you say to deal with it and not worry what you did with other players? If you set a standard with one player you need to stick to that whether the player in question is a star or the last man on the bench. ...

 when its like mike jones who, mike jones, who, mike jones, who,mike jones ...